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But don't be bitter about getting rolled on GAT. Sitting there in your Versailles studio you have to remember a little bit of revolution's OK every now and then.
I thought I was the only one who doesn't rate Kath and Kim. Ever since the first series it's sent me reaching for my thesaurus to find synonyms for underwhelmed. If those who do get it thought it sucked on Sunday night then Channel Seven can't be blamed. Remember, the creators pretty much had this series in the can before they shopped it around so they could pretty much do whatever they wanted.
By the way, I thought Sunday's edition of 60 Minutes was simply outstanding. ;)
Just because I/we disagree with your exclusions, doesn't mean we think you hate those shows. Criticism of the list is just healthy discussion, not a personal attack.
Aside from the fact that you are all demonstrably and objectively wrong about all of your choices, that is. Including the way you live your lives.
It's difficult to malign Kath & Kim based on one episode. The scrutiny was unfairly high this weekend: people tearing apart its first appearance on a new network.
Riley and Turner don't seem to have the hang of writing sitcom form for commercial television, though, because the ad breaks were jarring. The length was actually no different to your typical ABC episode (24 min), so it's not like an equal narrative had to be rammed into a smaller hole.
Also, golden plot points were left hanging (e.g. Kim chucking other people's stuff into the pool) and loads of opportunity was squandered. They're bogans in Queensland ffs, the whole episode could have been superb.
The current Doctor Who mythology is no different to the old one. A few facts have been ignored or altered slightly, but only to aid the new production, and even then it's getting closer with every episode. This year's alone dragged loads of clunky mythology kicking and screaming into the new show (I won't say what so I don't spoil anything), but kept it at arm's length to avoid alienating the more sexually attractive viewers.
Davies and the BBC didn't want to go all Trekkie and cling to the past when so much can be done in its current form. Clearly the best choice, because not only is it thoroughly superb (except last year -- Ross, you're bang on), but my wife loves it, and she hates science fiction. Without that breadth of appeal, the BBC could in no way justify the enormous expense.
Also, this year's final isn't crap at all. Certainly not as crap as the end of the first year, with Rose and her magical breath. Jeeeeeeeeezus.
Re The Master: I was trying to not spoil the return of the Master at the end of this series of Doctor Wh (and I couldn't remember if it had been mentioned here or not), but alas, the secret is out.
Yes, Magic Breath was cheating (killed him, saved the other guy, but she's fine? WTF?), but I still think this year's conclusion is just stupid. Pretty but stupid.
Micallef did a great sketch about having enough room to swing a cat. Damn not having everything everywhere not available as a YouTube clip! Someone somewhere knows what I'm talking about.
Nice mixed metaphor BTW re Rose Byrne: Her star is on the rise/, now she's getting meteor roles!
So what's up for ep 100? My votes is a black and white musical episode where Ross and Brett reveal that they are the same person...but from different parents... all played by Larry Hagman!!!
Finally, the Ellen Parsons Project? I hear Helen Coonan is a fan:
"Eye in the Sky! Eye in the Sky!"
Huzzah!
Feel the Love!
Where's my Shirt?
Chad
I still think this year’s conclusion is just stupid. Pretty but stupid.
Davies was never good at endings. I don't expect good final episodes from him anymore.
So what’s up for ep 100? My votes is a black and white musical episode where Ross and Brett reveal that they are the same person…but from different parents… all played by Larry Hagman!!!
Can't wait for the video podcast.
It has come from News of the World (UK) though. You can't believe Murdoch tabloids at the best of times, let alone their rumours.
Damn. Well, inadvertant sex-changes aside (Christ! I used to have a show on 3RRR myself - doesn't ANYONE *sob* remember?!), great show this week.
I'm sure you can wikipedia it in far greater detail, but the short and nasty version of current Dr Who continuity is this - at some point, the Daleks developed time travel themselves, which set off on an up-and-down the time stream running battle between the Time Lords and the Daleks. Each side messed around with the others development & history, a bit like 'Back to the Future II', or possibly more like the Simpsons when Homer's toaster sent him back to the age of the dinosaurs...
Sometimes you return to the present and it's raining donuts; sometimes Flanders becomes Big Brother; and sometimes Marge just has a tongue like a lizard.
"Eh, close enough"
In any case, it's as good an explanation for any continuity errors as you'll get - and after all, isn't the whole point of time travel fiction the setting up and resolving of paradoxes, changing things at a whim, the elusive "what if-"?
Or possibly I'm completely disappearing up my own ass at this point...
In any case, as to how the Master survived is - well, it's not a gaffe, but a deliberate plot point. Again, wikipedia if you reeeeeally want spoilers.
...which I suppose ties in to the comments on this weeks show about how good it is to have WIN & the regionals go ahead and make proper kids TV.
And I realise it's all over bar the shouting, but one GAT candidate still remains GLARINGLY outstanding. I'd argue it's the single BEST, most innovative, most clever, most - god forbid for a comedy - FUNNY sit-com of the last ten years...
the BBC's "Coupling". How the heck did that gem not get put up for consideration??
Split screen episodes, multiple POV storylines, "Lesbian Spank Inferno", 'Captain Subtext', any number of FANTASTIC running jokes, long story format - that's a tick in every box of the GAT criteria...
Excuses must be tendered!
Coupling, I thought, started out OK but by the end I detested it almost as much as I did Helen Hunt by the end of Mad About You - and I FRICKEN HATED HER GUTS!
The neuroses of the blond chick as she was going through being pregnant was the final nail for Coupling but it had started having problems when they tried to replace the zany Welsh character with a zany English character. They just managed to pull it off once, attempting the replacement was sheer lunacy.
I really did give it a number of chances - if only for the memory of Jack in This Life - but the constant letdowns lead me to refuse it consideration for GAT.
Uhh- *stops* *waits*
*thinks*
- It may not be worth my life to complete that thought. She may read this...
We'll have to agree to disagree about Coupling - I still say it's more deserving than a number of the nominees (Firefly? Really?!)
Some say childbirth is the greatest pain there is - I beg to differ... The last two seasons of Coupling was much worse.
Maybe he just doesn't listen to what Ross says.
Maybe he gets confused because they are the same person.
@MordWa:
Sorry, following Ross's lead I think I also referred to you as a she. But really, can you blame us? With gams like yours anyone could make that mistake.
By the way... I'm a bloke.
*** SEGUE ALERT ***
Steven Moffat, who wrote Blink, also wrote Coupling.
*** YOU WERE WARNED ***
Coupling went off. First two seasons are intimidatingly creative and intelligent; last two are duff.
Can't get enough of that wonderful Duff!
First time in yonks I actually jumped while watching TV.
Cheers,
Chad
Has anyone noticed that these new assistants aren't jazzed at all by the idea of space travel, but mention time travel and they're so up for it? Reflection of the times, I guess - anyone can pay a gazillion $ and head into space these days.
Re the Foxtel hard reset: Josh, I suspect that your EPG crapped out, which had happened a few times to us a couple of months ago, but the hard reset seemed to resolve it. The reason they have the hard reset msg on hold is because it's like the standard IT question: "have you turned it off and turned it on again?" In the 2.5 years we've had Foxtel I've only had to do the reset twice - you have obviously had a much smoother ride. Perhaps just coincidence that it occurred only a few days after the changeover to iQ (but I know you won't be convinced of that).
Re JFC: I'm sorry to say it because you want it to be something different, but the last ep was chock full of Christian stuff again... Shaunie as Jesus, returned; Linc as Saul/Paul - his resulting conversion and evangelism; the parade = Palm Sunday... it's all in there and more. Despite what Milch had said, I haven't seen that much evidence of a greater spiritualism or "oneness" - it became more overtly Christian as it went on. Perhaps that's what got it cancelled.
"Blue Fairy - I wanna be a real boy!"
:(
I am snobby to chavs, especially when they are talentless slapper ex-bimbo singers.
I wonder if the lack of interest in space is budgetary - much easier to create certain moments in the history of this planet than invent a whole new outer space world.
Also, as far as JFC goes, I don't buy the whole Christianity thing. Not that I think you are necessarily wrong CB, I just think it is another thing the show tried and stuffed up. So John was referring to himself with all that 'God's word' guff? And who is Cass in all that? And Kai? Besides, surely some of Jesus apostles could actually act.
And what the hell was going on with all that faux 9/11 garbage?!? I'm getting angry again. God, that show sucked. What a waste of everything.
I had my suspicions that the used car salesman was in some way supposed to represent God, but I wasn't concentrating properly at the time; I am interested in watching the whole thing again straight through.
**** SPOILER WARNING FOR THOSE YET TO WATCH ****
"John From Cincinnati": David Milch Speaks
Really? You want to watch it again? Surely once was too much.
Thanks for the article CB. It's an interesting read which makes me think for all his lofty ambitions Milch failed miserably with JFC and that he is essentially a big, pompous ass - which maybe explains the show a little.
(Also, spoilers? What is there to spoil? Nothing actually happened in the finale)
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I mean it's just wonderful television!
Thanks for mentioning it again Josh, I had forgotten the name since last week.
you boys watched spaced yet?
what about bsg? sure, its only a 60+ hour commitment to catch up, but bloody hell, you're tv fans.. you can do it!
oh, and when i was eight, i got the most adorable puppy. We had him for just four days when my mother accidently ran over him. he bled to death in my arms.
that experience was still more enjoyable than Curb Your Enthusiasm..
Oh I laughed heartily at the characters themselves as well as their lines and delivery. For me it was a show I'd like to collect all the precious gems of dialogue from and display somewhere.
Final tally of the Deadwood Posse I think was 6. Or have I missed one?
Well done Milchmeister! You don't need to guarantee me a destination, just show me a good ride with colorful eccentric characters and the genious actors to play them, and in the playing, transcend them. You keep me entertained with your stylistic speech patterns from another time that intrude into our own and remind us there are odder ways to go
DoeS a show change your life.? It can. It can redefine for you in an instant your tastes and your dislikes and so you get not just entertainment from this process but also change and movement and hopfully momentum to act.
This show is an ensemble, yet only some of the ensemble are people. Some other ensemble members are themes or the thing Palaka does with his arms, or the steady Freddie stare or "which little crushable fly are you to me, The red one?" Squishh, splat.
You will all live forever in the zeros and ones of cass's camera.
Now pleazse excuse my, my bird has me at the accountant at 3pm. . . .
MilcHWeeD!
There's a great scene in an early (series 1) episode of The Wire, where McNulty and Bunk are examining a crime scene, measuring distances and calculating ballistic trajectories and ricochet angles. They talk to each other throughout, and it's not a particularly short scene - at least a few minutes - yet the entire dialogue is restricted to two words: "fuck" and "motherfucker". Very funny, and it reminded me of Mr Wu's restricted vocabulary. Of course, Wu can also say "San Francisco."