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Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

catbrain — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:20:41 -0000

No way has that always been her accent - I've seen her interviewed on Parky before and it wasn't quite as broad as Rose, but was still "common" - certainly no "oh, ya"s in her speech!

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Adam D — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:19:54 -0000

That's always been her accent though. She put on a cockney for Doctor Who.

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catbrain — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:16:20 -0000

I'll freely admit to yelling at the screen during Russell T. Davies' eps - they're shit; all bells, whistles, a few double entendres and running around without much plot. Give me a solid story from Steven Moffat any day.

I saw the Parky interview with Billie Piper last night - my, what a poshe accent she has now.

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

Brett — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:53:25 -0000

Just to counter the rumours of conspiracy, let me say that I've enjoyed all the new Doctor Who episodes and have never yelled at the screen during a Russell T Davies episode, unlike some others I could mention.

We've all recommended Nathan Barley. I believe we've presented a favourable outlook on most Boosh incarnations. Spaced was welcomed warmly when I brought it up in the aftermath of the GAT process.

I'm sure I could continue in the warm flashback comment vein to provide more evidence that there's definitely no conspiracy against UK TV. And I could also make that point that we have now had two series of looking at what's new in the Fall seasons from the US, which can preclude examining content from other continents. No conspiracy, just busy doing other things...

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

fourthof5 — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:46:14 -0000

[conspiracy]
Now that we convince you too look at British TV you pick a crap show in order to reaffirm your dislike :)
[/conspiracy]

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

fourthof5 — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:43:40 -0000

@Jimbo, "Nightline" aired a ten minute tribute for Robert Goulet. I don't mind the tribute, but I do question the need for it to run so long. It really isn't news and that time could be taken up with something more newsworthy.

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Brett — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:40:40 -0000

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catbrain — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:37:20 -0000

The Pope's in The Ratzingers? Which one is he? I found photos of the band here, but I don't see him...

*boom-tish*

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Adam D — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:23:33 -0000

The Pope is a Ratzinger.

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sealfur — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:11 -0000

The Pope is a dead singer? Well, that explains his face but not his outfit!

ZING!

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ActualChad — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:22:50 -0000

Apparently the guitarist for an old band died recently (obit in the paper today).

Their biggest/only claim to fame was that they released the worldwide smash hit, "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep".

I wanna see at least three minutes of sombre black and white photos of the band playing and touring, slowly zooming in and fading out, while "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" gets played over the top.

It's what he would have wanted...

Chad

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

jimbo — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:10:27 -0000

Um, which news bulletin? I'd like to investigate. Frankly I can't see how it could possibly be anywhere close to ten minutes. If there's gonna be ten minutes of news time devoted to a dead person it'd wanna be the Pope.

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Brett — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:26:41 -0000

Lucky Dube died? I didn't hear squat about that. OMG, that's fucked up with the carjacking. Much more tragic news than Robert Goulet.

When I heard about Robert Goulet on the radio yesterday, I though they were talking about Robert Guillaume - I was going to check the news online but then got distracted...

10 minutes of a half hour news bulletin is outrageous. More than 3 minutes is pushing it, really. I can't imagine any news service putting a 10 minute tribute to air. What alternative reality are 9 operating in? It sounds like they're going down the path of the non-news-network-10

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lyndal — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:45:18 -0000

@ Ross.
I'm sorry to hear that your marriage is in so much trouble that you have started smoking the crack. I figure that must be the case cause I can't think of another reason why you wouldn't like Carpoolers. I know it's not going to change the way we think about TV but I think it's funny, charming & makes my teeth hurt less than any new sitcom I have seen for a while.
@ Confessions of a Call Girl - I'm not surprised it is crappy if it is based on the Belle de Jour. I wonder if it feels as fake as the blog did - it read like it was written by a middle age man.

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

Nigel P — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:03:01 -0000

Fourthof5, its the old TV addage. You have to ask the questions, is there footage, are they white, and can we make a big deal out of it. If you answer No to any of those, then the time that they show it goes down (I know this sounds harsh but its the case). For the poor kid in a suitcase there may not have been that much footage (especially with the amount its being played).

I'm guessing the singer Forthof5 is talking about is Robert Goulet, who most people will know from being the guest at "Bart's Casino" in the Simpsons (ep $pringfield (or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling)). I didn't see the story just guessing because I heard about his death.

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catbrain — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:49:45 -0000

Who's the dead singer? Not Lucky Dube - I can't imagine Nine devoting 10 minutes to him.

I'm curious... now look what you've done, fof5!

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fourthof5 — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:59:18 -0000

What is it with Channel 9 airing 10 min with of song at the end of the news bulletin? The news is "He's Dead"; not "here have a 10 minute tribute song in a 30 min news programme". Its not the first time they have done it either. I am not 9 bashing (well I am I guess) I just want to know what programmeing guru thinks that the news is worth less air time than a tribute song for a singer. Seriously, the Boy in the suitcase got less air time (on the day it happend) than this singer.

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

David Boxcutter — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:51:25 -0000

If your argument against Josh’s position hinges on the creative role of the writers then you need to show how/why that creative input is inherently different to the contribution of others

Well, the caterers are selling a product service, that is consumed once, and is not a part of the final product.

The choreographers, the set designers, all those creative roles should be able to negotiate royalties if they like. And, depending on who it is, I believe they do. Why wouldn't they?

As for the hair/makeup people - I think it's appropriate for costume designers and hair/makeup designers to get royalties - but not the people who simply style the hair the way they are told by the designer. Just like a set designer makes a creative contribution, but a set builder is just banging in nails where they are told to.

But hell, you can structure your payments however you like. In some low-budget independent films, almost everybody involved (including non-creative or "work for hire" roles) gets royalties, in lieu of a higher/any payment up-front. It depends on what they negotiate.

Anybody can get royalties if they like. I just don't understand why Josh is trying to say that people shouldn't be entitled to them.

Yes “No writers, no show” but has anyone ever made a ‘three camera sit-com’ without any fuckin cameras?

Well, if some company wants to hire/sell cameras on a royalty basis, rather than outright selling them, they are welcome to do that. Isn't that how some Special FX houses get paid? Invest in computers up-front, reap royalties when film is a blockbuster.

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peter — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:03:31 -0000

Re: Josh's views on writers fees;

I don't necessarily agree with his argument, but can I suggest that these are the sort of questions he might ask in support of his case?:

If writers get residuals because they are partially responsible for the creation of the product (along with Producers and Actors) then what about the rest of the team?

What about the cinematographer? Aren't they also integral to the piece? What about the set designers? The hair & makeup people? Why stop there? What about the caterers?

If your argument against Josh's position hinges on the creative role of the writers then you need to show how/why that creative input is inherently different to the contribution of others. Otherwise surely you need to devise a set of metrics that acknowledges and measures the creative work of all involved.

Yes "No writers, no show" but has anyone ever made a 'three camera sit-com' without any fuckin cameras?

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

Ross — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:15:23 -0000

It's worse - it's no sizzle or sausage. At least if there was some sizzle you could watch minimum 5 to 10 minutes without getting bored...

Also, I jumped the gun a little with Californication - there are two eps left to screen on Channel 10 in the current series, not one.

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

jimbo — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:33:41 -0000

MordWa, it's a red-letter day - I think we're agreeing about something! Secret Diary is all sizzle and no sausage. It's entirely lacking in any sort of atmosphere or buzz. In the vernacular of one of my colleagues, it's as flat as a shitcarter's hat.

Very disappointing considering the massive promotional effort in the UK.

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Bolden — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:28:02 -0000

Foxtel: Got my letter in the mail to say that the prices were going up in Dec. Looks like I get Showcase in the movies package.....

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Mike Beckham — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:42:05 -0000

What happened to the changes to the show you mentioned a few episodes back? New bumpers or something?

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MordWa — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:36:04 -0000

The worst thing with "Secret Diary" is how pointless? it all seems. Whereas the blog and book it spawned are full of attitude and sass, the TV show just seems desperate for someone to grab it by the cuff and inject an angle, or god forbid - a throughline to the story. A blog is such an open format, and taking out all the extraneous material just proves how weak (as a story) the material is. I've seen the first four (of eight) episodes, and there just doesn't seem to be a long-term plot developing.
Besides - is it a comedy? a drama? it's not particularly funny or dramatic. I hope this isn't the next big thing - TV shows based on blogs.

Curious about Californication - is female ejaculation the last, the very last ever taboo on TV? Even SITC got away with the c-word. It can't *fnar fnar* have been the timeslot, and if any show was ever marketed as adults-only, it's Californication.
I can only wonder what they were thinking.

Re: Boxcutters Episode 108

catbrain — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:00:25 -0000

Oh, that shits me about Telstra - download via the BigPond site and they won't include it towards your monthly limit, but you will have to pay for (practically) anything you do download from there, AND they're already charging you a premium.

Nigel P, thanks for the reminder about watching Newstopia online - I keep forgetting and when I watch the show (don't forget it's repeated late on Sunday nights) I'm reminded that there are subliminals that are only viewable with pause.