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Media Watch is fairy floss now. The ABC is a lost cause and SBS is run by greedy munters. Television is dead.
Also successful - albeit in a totally different field - Geoff "Comando" Barker, who is Mr Bessie Bardot, as well as the smarmy co-host of Foxtel's 'Erotic Star' show.
*beats head against nearest tree* - "Why do I remember these things?!"
As for 'It's a Knockout', for those too lazy to google 'Laughing-boy" (as Bugs would say) was Billie J. Smith.
'So what' some might say - but it's hard to imagine sinking that much time and money into winning just the Saturday night timeslot these days. Let alone the much missed Vizard/ Robertson/ Kennedy battle for the 10:30pm slot...
...I'm sure it wasn't just my memory- the Networks really *did* try harder back then, yes?
Also, American crap is cheaper.
Now they would just hire Whitney and do a clipshow. I still can't believe the mileage Ch 7 have got out the 'Comedy Classics' shambles. "Hey look - repeats of shows that were shit-house 30 years ago..."
...not that I'm that desperate to have those shows back. It's just a general rumination on how 'you've got to spend money to make money' has led to giving it away with nothing in return
(Bert, Ray, and <strike>Fuckwit</strike> Eddie, I'm looking at you
One thing I never thought I would hear:
"That's an interesting move for Play School".
I don't really notice if its longer than usual, I listen in blocks. Last week I listened from Wednesday - Saturday in different blocks so essentially if you did a 3 hour show it isn't hard to listen to as I don't listen in one go.
So there's a challenge! 3 Hours :P
According to Ausiello, Kristen Bell looks set to do Heroes and theatre - so both of you were correct.
Perhaps the most successful person post-Gladiators is Kimberley Joseph - the other names on the show seemed to be on the downward slide. And wasn't Billy J. Smith a Stan Zemanek lookalike?
I heard a report on RRR news today that Ray Martin had previously threatened to quit if John Westacott was appointed NewsCaff boss - now that the appointment has been made, perhaps he has just carryied through on a matter of principle. Good on him, if that's the case.
I would quite enjoy Lee Lin Chin reading the news - she'd be way better than Stan Grant and I always enjoyed her late night bulletins "back in the day".
You know, now I absolutely must watch The Kill Point (as would any grammar-obsessed crunchy granola eater).
Can we have the Boxcutters verdict on Flight of the Conchords and The Bronx is Burning?
from Glenn Dyer: The many (Nine) lives of John Westacott
from Margaret Pomeranz: There has been a cultural genocide at SBS
For what it's worth, I would be happy to suspend a hostage negotiation or just about anything else I might be doing because of a misplaced apostrophe. Yes - punctuation nerd me.
On the matter of Channel Seven's AFL story and the ensuing controversy: Ross, I think it was you who said that Seven's news was clearly way out ahead of everyone else on the story. However, I think it may be worth considering the possibility that the confidential medical files in question were peddled to a number of Melbourne media outlets. Only one of those outlets chose to buy them and run their contents.
Fascinating story. Seven really appear to have done themselve a lot of damage here.
Also, maybe you can use your contacts to help us get an interview with Nine's Tony Jones. He seems like the hardest working man at Nine (aside from yourself of course). Last night he did an extended live cross from outside Seven, a seperate report on the horse flu stuff AND presented sport... He's like a rookie cutting his teeth on a limited resourced regional news service.
It really doesn't matter if it's raining or if it's fine
Just as long as you've got time
To p-l-a-y playaway-away-way playaway play-play-away
Way play away playaway
Great show guys - love your work
As for the medical files, that was just assumption on my part. I really don't know. But no individual journo could make such a story happen. You'd still have to get a news director to agree to include it in the bulletin.
Tangentially, it's an unspoken factor that people hate ACA & TT because they know - or at least sense - that they use the trappings of "journalism" to go where you or I would fear to tread.
Now this may be "too deep" for a single thread on a podcast/blog - just why is it that news people get special dispensation (re : protection of sources, semi-exemption from contempt proceedings) - it seems to me, they get a total 'free ride' out of all proportion to the service they provide.
When was the last time a news organisation/ current affairs show actually earned those privileges?! Are we talking months, years, or - Watergate ONLY?
They gave themselves the title 'the Fourth Estate' - do they actually deserve it?
postscript: apologies if I'm bumming you out. This is (obviously) a sore issue :-)
Don't take for granted what the news media does. Yes, a lot of rubbish is reported. But think of the stuff, day to day, which no one would know about otherwise. I guess I'm thinking particularly about political stuff.
For the record, the t6erm the fourth estate is centuries old. It wasn't conferred on the media by the media.
And there's no exemption for contempt at all. That's why two Herald Sun reporters were recently tried in the Victorian County Court for refusing to reveal the source of an explosive federal politics story. The court demanded it, they refused, they were hauled over the coals.
Now, back to my poor tonsils...
The term Fourth Estate refers to the press, both in its explicit capacity of advocacy and in its implicit ability to frame political issues. The term goes back at least to Thomas Carlyle in the first half of the 19th century.
That said,
Novelist Jeffrey Archer in his work The Fourth Estate made this observation: "In May 1789, Louis XVI summoned to Versailles a full meeting of the 'Estate General'. The First Estate consisted of three hundred clergy. The Second Estate, three hundred nobles. The Third Estate, six hundred commoners. Some years later, after the French Revolution, Edmund Burke, looking up at the Press Gallery of the House of Commons, said, 'Yonder sits the Fourth Estate, and they are more important than them all.'"
From Wikipedia - and using Jeffery Archer as a source.
Uhhh... well, I feel good about the veracity of THAT explanation.
As it stands, journalism today consists of "Politician A says this, Politician B says that, aHA! Conflict!"
Was there ever a time when journalism actually consisted of "Politician A says this.
Now - here are the facts.
Supposedly ratings go up when there is conflict displayed with the story. True? Or just another meme that we're stuck with, I wonder?
What I meant was that however many centuries, it certainly wasn't the 20th century. So it's not as though it was some sort of fake legitimacy dreamt up by the London Sun in the '80s.
As for conflict? Yeah, it makes a story better. However, if political reporting becomes a bit he said/she said, it's often done in the name of balance. Never underestimate how quick spin doctors will be to call journos and give them an absolute bollocking over some perceived bias. They're usually wrong. But I've had some extraordinary calls of that type over the years. And I think the leaqst you can do within a story is give both sides their say.
That's the most succinct explanation of what's gone wrong in the News game.
Well played, Sir!
...there's just too damn many 'least you can do' stories...
Flight of the Conchords (HBO, 1st season currently airing in the USA, picked up for a 2nd season) is a real gem. Funny and quirky as all hell. I can't get enough of Jemaine and Bret and their "digi-folk" musical parodies. The show is not easily categorised. It's definitely on the edge . . . of something . . .
What say you?
In comparison, I remember seeing only one episode of the last AbFab series and thinking "this is frigging awful" simply because it has turned the corner from funny to angry.
So, did we hype "Blink" too much? I watched again and still thought it was great.
"Things happening. Well… four things. Well, four things and a lizard....'
Chad
Last night's Kath & Kim was awful. Truly awful. It feels like they've lost touch with the social class that gave them the idea in the first place.
Also, the increased budget means they're thinking bigger. The show's strength was always in playing up the small things, like Sharon's twenny-buck jeans; somehow that's turned into completely incongruous prosthetic forehead gags that are neither convincing nor funny. It's wrecking the show.
And what's with awkwardly shoehorning omgfamous people into every episode? What next, Bob Hawke playing the postman?
@ActualChad: no way did you overhype 'Blink' - one of the best eps of Doctor Who in a very long time. (I loved 'The Empty Child' as well, but I reckon 'Blink' had more suspense.) Less Russell T. Davies, please, and more Mr Moffat.
If a political point had to be made, it should have been Kath & Kim discussing what a wonderful man Johnny is, how he's so fair and humble, how he's so kind to the ab-o-riginoooooys etc., i.e. parodying the outer suburban bogans who still support Howard. Not having a jarring bitch about workchoices.
I agree that they should leave the political stuff out of it. It's a fine line to tread between being seen to support a particular party and being ridiculously flippant about important issues.
they’re going to be interested in the things that are closest to them, ie: how much money they make, how much they spend on their mortgage, how much time they have with the family and how much stuff they can buy.
Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I made that last post half-asleep so didn't have a better example to hand, but yes, exactly. They wouldn't know a Torres Strait islander if one fell down their chimney.
I need to understand where Riley and Turner were mentally when they wrote this season. It's just dreadful. Ted Emery's still on, Riley/Turner/McKenna are still producing, the script editors seem to have been carried over. Even make-up and wardrobe are managed by the same people. Therefore, it has to be the scripts and the scripts alone.
My theory is that Riley's & Turner's (new?) production company secured such a good deal with the ABC for series 3 that their lifestyles changed very quickly. Add to that the enormous wads of cash 7 is chucking at them and you can safely assume their personal lives are different enough that they've propelled themselves completely away from the Fountain Gate classes. (Normally I wouldn't speculate on people's private lives, but in this case I'm convinced it informs their work.)
It's not about class anymore, it's about characters and character alone. The all-new cartoon bent doesn't work either (e.g. Sharon, sunburnt, jumping in the pool and sizzling in the water).
I think it's too late to rescue now: the public's already losing interest, and once a series declines people don't tend to return. They need to call it a day and move on to one of the other projects they seem to have in mind.